There are infinite possibilities for you to create an entirely new reality. Amy Vetter’s guest today is Jamie Sabat, the Founder of Distill + Express, a health and wellness consultancy specializing in natural solutions. In this episode, Jamie discusses with Amy about how she felt out of place growing up in Washington, DC surrounded by attorneys and politicians, and how she eventually found her sense of self in her creative role in the fashion industry and her unexpected role in real estate. Jamie’s life experience propelled her to help others manifest their strengths and desires to create happiness in their lives. Listen to this conversation and be inspired to explore who you are and the infinite possibilities out there for you.

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Infinite Possibilities: Discover And Explore Who You Are With Jamie Sabat

I interviewed Jamie Sabat, the Founder of Distill + Express, a health and wellness consultancy specializing in natural solutions. With many years of experience in the trend forecasting industry, Jamie is a thought leader and early identifier of long-range trends in the wellness space. She is a trailblazer in her industry, discovering healthy ingredients for food, the hippest workouts in innovations and activewear. As a wellpreneur, Jamie provides the opportunity and game plan, empowering women to live a life of abundance in health and wellness. During my interview with her, we discussed her journey from growing up in Washington DC surrounded by attorneys and politicians where she felt out of place. Through her self-discovery, she found confidence and thrived once she found her sense of self in creative roles from fashion in Europe to real estate in DC. 

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I'm here with Jamie Sabat. Jamie, do you want to give a brief background on yourself before we begin? 

Thank you so much for having me, Amy. I'm a Manifestation Mentor. I use the Law of Attraction along with powerful mindset tools like EFT. You've probably heard of tapping, hypnosis and time techniques to remove the limiting beliefs in our lives in order to attract the things that we want into our lives. 

I'm happy to have you here. For our readers, we've been taking a focus in the last few episodes on ways that we can incorporate mindfulness into our days, work and lives. There are many different outlets that we can explore. Jamie brings one of those. Before we get started, we always like to go back, learn a little bit about you, how you started and got to what you're doing. Maybe you can talk about where you grew up and what was your family like.

It's funny I'm back in my hometown of Washington DC. I grew up here. Most of my family worked for the government. We're lawyers. That was the way that I grew up. I was going to school with Chelsea Clinton and the Gore family. That's a Washington DC type of life. There are lots of politics. Since then, I have had the opportunity to live and travel all over the world, working as a trend forecaster in fashion. I lived in London, Paris and New York City. I was able to go to the runway shows and see what the trends were happening globally and all throughout the world, which is exciting. My wellness journey began with my daughter. I had my son in New York City, which is where I lived for fifteen years. I had a traumatic birth. With my daughter, I was determined to have a natural birth. 

In my eighth month of pregnancy, I discovered essential oils. Through learning about essential oils and that they're not just fragrance or flowery things but natural medicine, I was able to use them to have a natural birth. No epidural or painkillers but just using the essential oils. I learned a protocol like lavender, copaiba and these powerful plants. When I had that birth, it was like I took my power back. From there, I felt like I started my mission of wanting to help other women feeling empowered to be in control of their body, health, destiny and lives. I learned Reiki, the power of energy and how that worked.  

I don't believe in coincidence but the way that that happened was I started selling the essential oils when I was on my maternity leave because that's how powerful it was for me to have this natural birth. I was selling them at a yoga studio and the same woman was a repeat client. We started to get to know each other. She told me she was a Reiki master. I was like, "What is that? She was like, "I conduct energy and move it through the body for healing and mitigating stress and pain." I was like, "Sign me up.” I've done my levels 1, 2 and 3. I become a master now. That sent me on to the journey of manifestation. There are twelve laws of the universe, but learning more about the Law of Attraction, how to harness it and be more empowered and conscious with my mind and how I want to live my life. 

Before we get to all of that, I want to go back and get to what was your beginning. That's where you got to now. As far as growing up, what did you imagine you were going to be? Were your parents lawyers? What were they doing? 

My mother is a lawyer working for the Department of Transportation and was a President Clinton appointee. I grew up in the time of the ‘80s. Especially as an African-American woman, it was like the Huxtables, "You become a lawyer or a doctor. If you're not one of those things, you're not successful." 

Was your dad in the same field as well? 

My dad wasn't around when I was growing up. My parents got divorced when I was younger. My mom and other relatives, my aunts and uncles are all lawyers which clearly I am not. 

Did you think you were going to be, growing up with your mom doing that? 

I was more interested in people. I started off in college in my freshman year as a Psychology major. It was also depressing and so intense for me as a freshman that I moved more into Marketing and decided to go into Graphic Design. I thought, "If I was a graphic designer then I would be able to create magazines or send my message out to people and connect with people in a mass way." I moved from Psychology because I thought I was going to be a doctor and moved more into Marketing and Graphic Design. 

Your mom being a lawyer, how did that come to be? Was that in her family? How did she dream of that for herself? 

It's interesting because my grandfather and grandmother met at historically black colleges in Atlanta in Spelman. My grandfather was 1 of 11 children that grew up on a farm, but his brother grew an empire in the hair and cosmetology business in Atlanta. He decided to move North. When he moved North, he became an entrepreneur and a businessman. They wanted their daughter to go to college and become an accolade. My mother went to Smith College, an all-women college in Northampton, Massachusetts and then went to GW Law immediately after. My family was a very much group of overachievers and feeling like education and following the rule book was more of the way to gain success, which is understandable in the '70s and '80s especially for an African-American family. It's following the rule book of like, "Go to college, get your Master's degree in whatever it is and follow that path." 

Did you have siblings as well? 

No. I grew up as an only child. I had no one else to commiserate with on how to rebel. 

Did you always know that it was something that went against the grain for you? 

Always. 

When was the first time that you realized that? 

I was a troublemaker from the beginning. I got kicked out of Sunday School because I told the teacher that there's no way that Jesus walked on water because I learned about gravity. That was me in first grade. When I was in high school, I went to one of the best all-girls schools in the country but I never felt like I fit in. I was in the art studio most of the time. Whereas other people were taking AP Calculus. The path was to go to the Ivy League from the school that I went to. I never felt like I fit into the norms and the conformity of society. I'm an Aquarius, sun, moon, Mercury and Venus. We're very rebellious and thinking outside of the box, and thinking of society as a group instead of individuality. I didn't fit into any of those boxes. 

How did that make you feel growing up? Did you feel confident in that? Did you feel like something was wrong with you at that time? 

Probably in the age of the early adolescence like 12 and 13, I did feel a little strange but moving into 15 and 16-year-old, I owned it. I had steel-toe Doc Martens. I went to Ska concerts. I was heavy into all of the alternative music, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Nirvana. I was into Nirvana and I didn't care. I found that my group of friends were a part of the popular group but we were the rebellious ones that people were like, "What are they doing over the weekend?" 

What do you think flipped that for you where you were okay with who you are? 

Some of the confidence comes from going to a single-sex school. There weren't boys around to influence the popularity. In my school, it was more about how smart you were. I don't know what it was. It was around that time when alternative music came out and it was acceptable to be weird. I followed the artist. I have to admit, my mother and grandparents were supportive of me being interested in fine art, going to the museums and the theater. My family was supportive of me even though they wanted me to become a doctor. 

Do you think they helped to guide you in the direction that you wanted to go? How did they help with that? 

They sent me to a counselor to have that extra support. Having someone else to talk to that is not your parent or a friend, I'm a life coach so I highly recommend that. Through my adolescent years, I did have a counselor that I leaned on and was able to help me grow into my own. I became the editor of my school yearbook. I was super into black and white photography and art history. Having that other party helped me to cultivate my skills and hone them more. 

Sometimes there's a stigma about that. It is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself and the people around you as well so that you're not putting out the wrong kind of energy because you're being put in a box you're not comfortable with. Someone's there to help guide you from an independent perspective. 

It's interesting because now even more so, it's a status symbol. It was a stigma before but now people are like, "My coach. My shaman. My Reiki healer." It has become more of a status symbol to say that you are surrounded by an entourage of people that lift you up and support you. 

In the corporate world, we call that your advisory board. It's your personal advisory board to help with the mental health stuff that we all need. It's hard to do it all by yourself. 

I have a coach as well that I meet with. 

You went to school and what did you end up graduating? 

I'm grateful for the encouragement that I was able to study abroad. I studied in London. I got my BFA and graduated from school there. I went to some of the best art galleries in the world and got to see art up close. I've been to Rome and seen the Sistine Chapel and smelled it. Living in Europe and studying art was phenomenal and amazing. In Graphic Design, that was my focus. I'm grateful for that because that’s how I was able to use and hone my skills to get into trend forecasting. I was able to create books and manuals that were used in the fashion forecasting world. 

How did you get into that? 

I lived in London near Baker Street which is where Sherlock Holmes lived. Right in that area was a marketing innovation firm called ?What If! and I'm forever grateful to them. My mentor there took me under her wing because I was laying things out as a student and doing graphics work for them. She said, "Jamie, you got to get into forecasting." I was like, "What's that?" She was like, "You travel the world, go to the hotels, look at fashion and tell people what you think." “Sign me up.” That was my career for 15 or 20 years. Little did I know that it was connected to energy, human beings and cultural movements more than fashion. Marc Jacobs and Karl Lagerfeld picked up on the energy and they're true artists. How they create fashion is because they're picking up on cultural movements. 

That's important no matter what you're doing when you think about your job and that level of awareness. You needed to have and not put your own opinion in. In any kind of job of forecasting trends, no matter what you're doing in your profession, you're not going to be accurate if you're putting what you want. You have to be more aware of what's happening. Even during those times before you got into what you do now, how do you think you got yourself present to take yourself out of it and observe in those times? 

It's sad because I've always been strange from a very young age. I started doing yoga when I was ten years old. I've had a lifelong practice of yoga and that helped me. I'm also a Buddhist. I'm always interested in Eastern philosophy. I only started meditating in the last few years. Buddhism and yoga always allowed me to be grounded because working in fashion is crazy. There are runway shows, parties, drugs, rock and roll. No matter where I lived in the world, I always maintained my yoga practice. I don't know if that's the thing that got me through and helped me have a separation of ego and self. 

If you're writing about the runway shows and saying, "This is what the trend is," you have to remove yourself and say, "I might not like this. I don't think throwing paint on clothing is cool. I don't want to wear that." It's not about me. It's about the people. It's about the generations. It's about the Millennials, what they want or what's happening with Gen Z and they're into sustainability. I'm neither one of those generations. It's more about picking up on that and knowing how to separate the ego from the conscious. 

Is it a struggle sometimes, especially when you don't like what you're seeing? 

It is. 

How do you overcome that? Everybody goes through that. 

I'm always doing breathwork. I've always had my yoga practice. I'm into Yoga Nidra. It's a hypnotic or meditative state. It's what the Dalai Lama does. The Dalai Lama uses that to reincarnate, which I learned. I’m always journaling. I like to write. It's different from typing. When you write from pen to paper, you go into a hypnotic state where you learn and discover things that you might not consciously know are there. 

You have that outlet for yourself versus what you've got to do for your work. 

Fashion is Science. It's like trends. It's a pendulum. They swing from one direction to the next. In the '80s, it was Versace and golden over the top. In the '90s were minimalism and gray. It's more of looking at it in that way and allowing to have that separation of like it's more of a science. 

You're documenting history as it's happening. You did that for fifteen years and you had your son at some point during this period of time. 

Yes, I had my son. I was traveling all over the world frequently. Sometimes it's two different cities in one week. I felt like, "How can I continue doing that if my focus is on my child now?" I honestly didn't know what I was going to do. It just all came to me. Having the traumatic birth was a part of my journey. Feeling powerless, out of control, lost and being in that dark place was a part of my journey. 

Is he healthy now? 

Yes, he's doing well now. Everything worked out fine but it was a scary moment. 

How did you shift your career once you had him? 

That's where the manifestation all began because my husband and I were living in New York City. I was working in fashion. I had James. I was still like, "I'm going to do this," and then I realized I couldn't. My husband was working in tech but with nonprofits. There are so many nonprofits in Washington DC. I grew up here and all my family was here. To move from New York to Washington DC was a perfect move for us. In my state of worry and confusion with James, I stayed home with him for 1.5-year. My husband came home. He was in a WeWork space and said, "I think I have found the right place for you to work." It was this super interesting architectural firm that had marketing, restaurants, hotels, multifamily and real estate all combined under one roof. My whole thing was like, "After working in fashion for so long, I wanted to work with Ian Schrager and Philippe Starck, those types of genius minds in the built environment." It started manifesting towards me. I shifted into working in real estate which I never thought that I would. 

How did you get that job? 

That's another crazy one. I started looking up the company on LinkedIn. The art director at that company was friends with one of my best friends that I grew up with in high school. She immediately connected me to her. I went in for an interview and they were like, "Your background is weird. We don't know what to do with you but we like your thinking. We liked that you have a global perspective." I was hired in the role of project management. It's not even what I was doing. After a year of being there, they created a role for me doing consumer research and forecasting. It all manifested and moved towards the right role for me after being there for a year. 

That's an important thing for people. A lot of times, if we don't see the position that we want, we don't even apply. What you're talking about is like, "I found a place I wanted to work. I don't have any of the skillsets they're looking for. How do I take what is my expertise and apply it into another field?" A lot of people get stuck. I remember it was mid-career. I had given up painting. I loved painting when I was in high school as well. I wanted to go and do more of it. I didn't know what it was like to have a business in it. I saw this painter during an art auction and he resonated with me. I went to him. I was like, "What should I do? I want to get back into it." He was like, "You get in the car. You go to Michaels. You buy paint and a canvas board. Go home and paint." There's not a step to move to another thing. You just have to get your hands dirty and get in it. 

That's such an important lesson for women who had children and gone off of work. You feel like that time has passed, there's new technology and the workforce has changed but what can you do? The only thing you can do is jump in and create it for yourself. 

It goes back to what you were saying before. It's the ego versus self because sometimes you have to start over. You can't have in your head like, "Why was this a world traveler? I saw all these top designers and I was at the top of my game." If you're trying to shift into another field, you're going to have to take a couple of steps back to move forward. 

You have to learn that field. I knew nothing about real estate. They were sending me floor plans to figure out. I was like, "What is a floor plan?" I know what it is but like, "What am I supposed to do with it?" It was like I was a freshman in college again. I had to stay up at night and figure it out until they saw, "This girl has figured it out. She has this background and then this whole thing she created," but I humbled myself to move forward. 

Put in the extra time and not expect to get paid to learn it. As you're doing this, then you got pregnant with your second child along this journey. This is what then started your next pivot. 

From that time of having James and then starting at the architectural firm, it was a continued human revolution of shifting and changing. I'm releasing a course on conscious parenting. Being a parent is a huge mirror in your face. What are you doing? How do you want the world to be? There's no way around it. It's just in your face. As I began to evolve and move into that new role, I became more aware of natural solutions, meditation, deepening my yoga practice and questioning life about, what does it all mean? 

Is there something that caused you to do that during this? 

The traumatic birth, moving, shift in the career, all of those things are being like, "What does it all mean? 

You're like, "Who am I?" 

"Who am I anymore?" After you've been working in fashion for 15 or 20 years and then you're not living in the place that you were living in over a decade and you're back in your hometown, it was a feeling of like, "Am I a failure? What does this mean?" Also, being in places like New York City, London and Paris, I felt like an artist and I was in the right place. Being an artist in Washington DC where everyone is a lawyer and most people work for the government is like if you're not an actor in Hollywood, you question, "Why am I here?" There were a lot of factors coming into play for me. Also, being a mom. It's an identity shift. It's an identity change because you're a new person. There was a lot of thinking going on. When you're thinking, you Google meditation, "What does it all mean?" You start doing your research. 

What is important is something we talk about all the time on this show is about taking those moments to pause and not quit. When you're at those moments of inflection and we have them throughout our lives, it's easy to be like, "I want to quit everything and start over because it doesn't feel good." That doesn't necessarily answer what you need because you can't run away from yourself. It's that exploration of self that begins what aligns the belief systems. What's interesting about yours is you're back to where you began. Now, you're hitting the, "This didn't align with me growing up. Now, I'm back." How do you explore that belief system in you and get past it and get comfortable? 

Now that I know more about mindset tools and how the mind works, in this moment of now, there are infinite possibilities. I could have even stayed home with my son and also never had a daughter. There are a million different instances where you can create an entirely new reality. When you're in that state of exploration, letting it happen and saying, "I'm going to push forward and discover what I can possibly do with my life and what I can create," it's like the hands in the clay once again. It's shifting, molding, growing and moving through it. 

Many times, it’s uncomfortable. You've got into some new practices you were telling me about like Astrology. You talked about essential oils in the beginning. How did you get into the Astrology side of things? 

In 2020, it was a matter of time. I've always been connected to Astrology. I cannot believe I've waited this long to get my mastership in it. It's one of those things when I meet someone, I say, "What sign are you?" It's a natural question. I don't know if it's normal for everyone else but for me, I know more about the person knowing what sign they are. People that do believe in astrology, it's like, "There's nothing to believe in. It's just where the stars were and the planets were when you took your first breath when you were born." It's more science in a way than a belief system. As I learned more, I decided that I wanted to put it into my coaching program because I feel like, how can you start to know where you're going to go unless you know who you are? 

It's interesting because I started learning about this years ago. I find it fascinating because it's scary accurate sometimes. This is a different comparison. During quarantine, I was watching the show Indian Matchmaking. One of the first steps they do in the matchmaking process is going through their astrological makeup, especially if two people haven't met of how they intertwine from a science perspective. These things have been around for thousands of years. It's like, how did they know before science now? 

Now that I know that the subconscious mind is molded from the age of 0 to 7, I want to use Astrology for children. When I finally read my chart, I was like, "I'm supposed to be a speaker." I was terrified of public speaking. I didn't start doing it in my career until I was 32. If someone had told me that when I was in elementary school, I would have taken a course. I would have focused. I'm doing that with my kids. I experiment with everything on my children. We've got it all going on over here. What a great tool to use for children. 

My son is into it. He's constantly asking, "What's their sign?" How did you transition into coaching? What caused that for you? 

Another manifestation. People started coming to me. They were like, "What is it that you're doing? What's going on? Why do you look so good and happy? What's happening?" I was like, "I'm happy to show you." I quickly pulled together a program and a process. I sat down and I was like, "What am I doing? What are the five steps that I'm doing to manifest what I want?" I started figuring it out and then put it together. I quickly started getting clients. The CIA knows about manifestation. I started researching more about manifestation. I was like, "This is science. It's interesting. It's not like a magic potion or made-up or anything like that. It's like the Law of Gravity." 

Maybe you can explain more for the readers what that is. 

We are creating the reality that we live in with the filters and programming that's in our subconscious mind. Our subconscious mind is created from the age of 0 to 7. That's why we say children are like sponges. You have no filter. Your parents, caretakers, teachers and friends in school all are influencing your personality. If you're raised in India, the United States or Europe, all of those elements, your culture and religion are having an impact on your personality and who you're becoming. As you're moving through life and in that time of subconscious age, let's say a traumatic event happens, a kid makes fun of you on the playground or a simple thing like your mom says, "You can't have a lollipop," and you get mad. All of that builds up into the programming in your life. 

Moving into teenagehood and to adulthood, we are living our life through those filters. The more that we do that, the more of it comes to us because the Law of Attraction says, "That which is like unto itself gets drawn." People were like, "Teach me how to manifest." I was like, "You're manifesting all the time. It's a magnet. It's just drawn. You want to manifest the things that you want, not the things that you don't want.” Subconscious programming is creating our reality around us, "Where do we live? What kind of car do we drive? What kind of partner do we have or children? Where do we work?" If you want to change what you're manifesting because you're already manifesting it, you have to change the subconscious programming. 

We can do that through hypnosis. We can go into the subconscious mind. Hypnosis is not like you're getting on stage. You're quacking like a duck and looking like a chicken. It's a relaxed state just like you would be in a trance if you're scrolling through your phone, watching Netflix or driving to work and you're like, "How did I get here?" Your subconscious mind kicks in. If we had to think about every time brushing our teeth like get the toothpaste and put it on, etc., we would never get anything done. That's why we have the subconscious mind. The mind is a powerful computer. What we're doing is we're changing the programming to get what we want. 

Another powerful tool that I like to use is called Time Techniques. We have a timeline of our life, future and past. If there are things that are in our past that are holding us back, we can go into our childhood and change the incident. We can rewrite the story. If there's a goal that we're trying to achieve, we can go forward on our timeline and implant that on our timeline in the future. Hypnosis is powerful, but Time Techniques are super powerful for changing your timeline. It's all about releasing the things that don't serve us so that we can allow, magnetize and bring in the things that we want. 

I'll add a point of clarification on that with the specialists I've talked to about, "You're not changing the story. The story is going to be the story. It's almost like changing how it impacts your body or how you will feel that story." It's not like it changes you as a human. You are whatever you are but you had a filter or a lens of a seven-year-old in that experience. Now, as a 40-something-year-old, if you go back to that experience, sit in it and observe it, can you see that experience in black and white versus colored? You're not letting it affect your current day. 

It's an important tool for people. When we talk about breaking belief systems, we don't even realize where a lot of our belief systems came from. It’s something that could have happened on the playground. It doesn't have to be these huge traumatic experiences. Whatever impacted you as a person, you carry it like a quilt in your body. Going back to understanding, now as a 40-something-year-old, if I go back to that story, I can realize all the extenuating circumstances of that story and what's okay and not okay. I don't want to keep repeating the pattern because of some belief system that was created that I didn't intend to create. 

It could be something as simple as your mom didn't give you the lollipop. You have this feeling of anger but then when you go back, it was like, "I already had too much sugar that day. That makes total sense." The thing is when we create that first moment of anger when we're two years old, it compounds over time. Our anger gets stronger. That's why we're in a world where people have road rage. Adults are making decisions about the world like in the government as a seven-year-old because they haven't released the trauma and the pain. 

Many things in your story applied to so many people of pivots we make in our lives and what we manifest for ourselves to find that happiness. When you talked about the Law of Attraction, the energy you were putting out is what's attracting people to you to do the work that you enjoy. If it's just something you say you do but then you're not putting that out in the world, people aren't going to believe you. It shows authentically through you. 

My whole goal in life is to raise the vibration of the planet. Feelings and EQ are going to be one of the next big trends that we see in society 2.0, especially with AI becoming so important. We as human beings and our emotions and feelings should be feeling good. Life is supposed to be fun. We're supposed to be happy. If I can help a person get there, then I feel like, "Mission complete." That's what I will do. 

It's such an important time with people so stressed out and the world is changing so fast, and just the acceptance of everybody's pivot that they're going through. I like to end with some rapid-fire questions. You pick a category, family and friends, money, spiritual or health. 

Money. 

Things or actions I don’t have that I want with money. 

More money. 

Things or actions that I do have that I want to keep. 

Investing. I've been investing in Bitcoin with Robinhood. That's another thing I share with my clients because that's so important. 

Things or actions I don't have that I don't want. 

Ignorance of the market.  

Things or actions that I do have that I don't want that you would want to get rid of as far as money. 

Speculation. You're supposed to invest for five years. I'm like, "Buy the stock.” I feel it's a trend. I'm going to get it. 

Is there anything that you want to end, any message or takeaway, that we haven't covered? 

I want to share, especially with any women readers out there that it's never too late to start your journey to happiness and that you can begin at this moment right now. 

Thank you very much for being on and sharing your story with our readers.  

Thank you for having me. 

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For our Mindful Moments on my discussion with Jamie. We began talking about her grandparents, where her mother was 1 of 11 children and wanted their daughter to go to college and follow the rules into what is perceived as a success. Jamie grew up in DC with her mom being an attorney and grew up as an only child. She went against the grain of what was accepted in the all-girls school that she was going to. She was so interested in the arts versus a lot of them were more interested in politics. She found herself out of place which created her feeling like she was on the outside. As she grew up, she started noticing what the things were about herself that were special. That gave her confidence as well. 

It's important when we talked about this journey that she talked about the counselor that helped her as a third party, talking to her to bring out these strengths. Also, know that even if it didn't follow the path that everybody else goes on, if you have passion for something and something moves you, you'll find success. She did find success in a lot of ways by graduating in Graphic Design, getting into the fashion industry and utilizing the intuitive side of her personality. She was able to spot trends and create this career that was so unique that pulled her in a new direction. 

It's important for all of us, whether it's people in our families or we do it to others that we are related to, that may be a path that worked for us. It doesn't necessarily mean that the same path is going to work for everybody. What's important is that we connect with our purpose in life and where we find passion. If we find passion in things, then work doesn't feel like work. We can go about it, be immersed in it and find success in something that maybe we didn't even know was possible. When we think about the advice we give to others, it's very important that we don't always look through our own lens. We try to pull back from the way and the lens that we see the world from.  

Use our experience but be very cognizant and aware of the lens that other people look through as well and what drives them. Those are the questions that are so important about when we help others or if they're family members of ours or even when we feel like we're going against the grain. It’s understanding who we are. There's a great meditation that that's all it is. It's repeating the mantra "Who am I?" over and over in our minds and allowing that to come up for us so that we can identify what makes us tick. 

When she started seeing her life pivot even within the career that she had, she was constantly seeking out learning and therapeutic ways of self-care. Many times, when we talk about these practices of yoga, breathwork, meditation, hypnotism and other things that she was talking about, those things are not necessarily talked about because we're not sure how people are going to judge us. What's important is we're not looking at it as a judgment. We're looking at it as things along our journey to get to know ourselves better, to observe how we are functioning in the world so that we create better energy for the people around us.  

When we need to make these pivots in our career, and she talked about many of those pivots, that we look at it as a possibility rather than where our weaknesses are. Instead, find the things that make us strongest in any direction that we want to go, push forward into it, learn along the way and be open to the learning process. Many times, when we're going into a new field, career, job or whatever it is, we're looking forward to the moment that we can say, "We got this," but it's the journey along the way that's most interesting and exciting.  

We talked a lot during this interview about manifestation that we decide to create the reality that we want by getting rid of all of these layers or excuses that we had that block us from moving forward and trying to understand each layer of why that might have happened. These are our belief systems that are created from such a young age that could be the smallest experience but we don't realize we still carry in our bodies. When we notice a pattern coming up from us over and over again, it's important to explore it, observe it and then decide, "Does it serve us?" If it doesn't serve us, work on just that one thing each day so that we can break through that belief system to get us to the other side of exploring something new, of something possible in our lives that maybe we thought was never available to us but is achievable. 

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About Jamie Sabat

Jamie Sabat is the Founder of Distill + Express, a health and wellness consultancy specializing in natural solutions.

With over 15 years of experience in the trend forecasting industry, Jamie is a thought-leader and early identifier of long-range trends in the wellness space. She is a trailblazer in her industry, discovering healthy ingredients for food, the hippest workouts, and innovations in activewear. As a Wellprenuer, Jamie provides the opportunity and game plan, empowering women to live a life of abundance in health, wealth, love.